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18.04 = circular login problem on system freeze

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:28 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at> wrote:
> I think that unless a fairly stable Unity remix of 18.04 appears, I am
> going to switch to Xfce and Xubuntu. It's clean, simple, it just
> works, and with some easy tweaks it has a pleasing desktop. It is easy
> to enable features such as a vertical taskbar, partly-translucent
> title bars (à lá Windows 7), and some useful panel applets (system
> monitor, weather forecast, virtual desktop switcher).
I've been a convert to Xubuntu since 12.04 - cleaner, simpler
interface.  I was on CentOS 4/5 since 2007, then switched to Ubuntu
10.10.  When Unity came around, I didn't like it and jumped to Xfce4
with Xubuntu 12.04 LTS.  Never looked back.  I've tried Linux Mint,
both Cinnamon and Xfce4,, but it's not quite the same underpinnings
and I don't like it.  I don't like SuSE at all, and I much prefer
*bunutu over RH/CentOS, although I use RH/C at work (we use them for
our products).

I don't like launchers at all - I don't like GUIs all that much.  In
WinX, launchers were nice, but I've been a UNIX pro and fan since
1987, proprietary text-only systems before that.  I use keyboard
shortcuts for most of my apps, and Xfce4 provides a nice, easy way to
set them up and port them from machine to machine.  The few launchers
I did use were in the launch panel, which I disabled about 2 years ago
because I got tired of having to keep them up to date when new
versions come out.  I find k/b shortcuts easier to maintain and
typically only have to change them when a major revision change comes
out.  E.g., when LibreOffice switched from 4.x to 5.x, the old
shortcuts didn't work any more, and I created easy ways to get around
that, too.

OTOH, I'm a really long-time fan of and expert at using keyboards
instead of depending on the mouse and a GUI.  If I need to run a
program that isn't in my shortcuts, I just use the menu - it';s easy
enough to get at when necessary.  Most of what I really need is in my

I run Xubuntu 16.04 LTS on three machines - my home desktop (the
powerhouse), my home laptop, and at work in a VM on my Win10 (eh) work
laptop.  I also help my girlfriend on her Xubuntu 16.04 laptop, to
which I converted her a couple of years ago and she deals with it
quite well (mainly uses it for web browsing, documents (LibreOffice)
and A/V access.

Hope that helps,

MR, Expert Software Developer
FSF Member #12694
Registered Linux User #472807

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