[Python-Dev] Standard library vs Standard distribution?
On 29Nov2018 1020, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> It's just _hard_
> and an awful lot of work, and apparently you're not volunteering to
> start it. So saying "we should make an extended distribution" if you're
> just waiting for others to do the job doesn't sound convincing to me, it
> just feels like you are derailing the discussion.
The problem with volunteering is that I'll immediately get told to just
go off and do it as a separate thing, when the condition under which I
will contribute to selecting and maintaining a set of
bundled-but-not-stdlib packages is that we're actively trying to reduce
the stdlib and hence the core maintenance burden. Without it being a
core project, it's just more work with no benefit.
I've previously volunteered to move certain modules to their own PyPI
packages and bundle them (omitting package names to avoid upsetting
people again), and I've done various analyses of which modules can be
moved out. I've also deliberately designed functionality into the
Windows installer to be able to bundle and install arbitrary packages
whenever we like (there's an example in
Plus I've been involved in packaging longer than I've been involved in
core development. I find it highly embarrassing, but there are people
out there who publicly credit me with "making it possible to use any
packages at all on Windows". Please don't accuse me of throwing out
ideas in this area without doing any work.
When the discussion is about getting Python modules onto people's
machines, discussing ways to get Python modules onto people's machines
is actually keeping it on topic.