## Subject: [tw] Re: [TW5] Desirable core additions

Thanks Mark,

I am trying to use this now. I have duitfuly tagged it $:/tags/Macro saved and reloaded in Both the key tiddler and below placed <<editnsave objecttabs>> used other field names and ways of referencing the field name yet nothing apears. I have looked around but can not see why this would not work, editnsave is not apearing in dumpvariables as would be expected Thanks so far. Tony On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 11:36:11 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:Here's an improved (?) version that uses the existing field value as a default: \define editnsave(field) <$vars tid="$:/temp/$(currentTiddler)$" fld="$:/temp/$(currentTiddler)$!!$field$" fldx="{{$:/temp/$(currentTiddler)$!!$field$}}" >$field$: <$edit-text tiddler=<<tid>> field="$field$" default={{!!$field$}}  tag="input"/>
<$button>Save<$wikify name=val text="<<fldx>>"><$action-setfield$field="$field$" $value=<<val>> /></$wikify>
</$button> </$vars>
\end

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:16:15 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:Mark,

I am yet to test this but could it be extended as follows

<<editnsave myfield "stringvalue">>

But idealy
<<editnsave myfield "{{!!myfield}}">>

to prepopulate it?

It is often helpful to utilise the edit of a value to display it as well so that you can save screen realestate.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:12:47 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:Re request #2, use the following macro. Put it in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/Macro. Then put <<editnsave myfield>> anywhere in the tiddler that you want to edit the field. This will create an edit field and a reset button. Use the * button the first time you use the field to synch it with the current values. Edit in the field. Press Save when you're done. HTH Mark \define editnsave(field) <$vars tid="$:/temp/$(currentTiddler)$" fld="$:/temp/$(currentTiddler)$!!$field$" fldx="{{$:/temp/$(currentTiddler)$!!$field$}}" >$field$: <$edit tiddler=<<tid>> field="$field$"/>
<$button>*<$wikify name=val text="{{!!$field$}}"><$action-setfield$tiddler=<<tid>> $field="$field$"$value=<<val>> /></$wikify> </$button>
<$button>Save<$wikify name=val text="<<fldx>>"><$action-setfield$field="$field$" $value=<<val>> /></$wikify>
</$button> </$vars>
\end

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 6:55:03 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:Folks,

Please forgive my being so brash to propose some TW5 core additions but I am in the middle of a learing curve that may inform some improvements to the core that will help others on this learning curve. I would liove your feedback and if you are a GitHub proficiant person for you to submitt them. First I will explain what I want with a small explination and hope the reasons prove self evident, however I will put a longer argument if requested. I acknowledge there may be a gap in my knowledge and are happy to be set straight. I am no Genius but I am not stupid and a clear way to do the following would have made adopting TW5 much easier. I hope I am using the correct terminology.

Psudo-Constants
Provide tools to create "constants" within a given tiddler and any sub-tiddlers (transcluded, called, macros etc...)
I have finaly learned I can do this using the below

\define currentobjectsrc()
{{!!title}}
\end
<\$wikify name="currentobject" text=<<currentobjectsrc>>>

Such that <<currentobject>> has the same value in all sub-tiddlers

This is still not sufficent as <<currentobject>> can only be used in some places.

Why cant we have an established syntax that allows this as a built in feature?

The current methods are way to convoluted and I fear act as a barier to someone using tiddlywiki as their knowledge must be much deeper than it need be before they can do something most people will think of while they are learing about tiddlywiki. In this case much can be done without learning to navigate a lot of complexity by providing values that are not so context sencitive.

Edit fields in Current Tiddler
Provide the tools to edit fields in the Current Tiddler

The complexity of editing fields in the current tiddler, whilst it has its technical reasons, runs counter to the intuitive value of tiddlywiki. The most practical way is to use the tiddler edit function in which case the user has to see all possible fields and values. I would like to provide access to edit fields in the current tiddler through the View Template, without needing to use two additional tiddlers to achive this.

I understand the issue is the rendering of each key stroke and the loss of focus, but why can we not have a method where you nominate a field and its value is placedn in an external tiddler, you then edit the field value and on pressing a (field) save button, it is written back to the calling tiddler in one shot?

Once again the current methods are way to convoluted and I fear act as a barier to someone using tiddlywiki as their knowledge must be much deeper than it need be before they can do something most people will think of while they are learing about tiddlywiki.

Regards
Tony

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