Subject: Re: Wie es eigentlich gewesen war



Sine ira et studio:  Tacitus, Annales 1.1.3:

 

inde consilium mihi pauca de Augusto et extrema tradere, mox Tiberii principatum et cetera, sine ira et studio, quorum causas procul habeo.

 

George Pesely

Austin Peay State University

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JW Worthy
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Wie es eigentlich gewesen war

 

The subject line is German for "the way it had been."  If, on the other hand, the subject line would invoke the spirit of Leopold von Ranke's Kritik neuerer Geschichtsschreiber (1824, although I am not sure exactly where the oft -quoted _expression_, "wie es eigentlich gewesen ist," or related saws like "ad fontes," "sine ira et studio," actually occur).   I prefer Dr. Luther's "wo steht denn das geschrieben?" even if it did get him excommunicated.  The highest standard is of course is Albert Finney-Poirot's thrice repeated query on the Orient Express:  "Did you see it?"  I  think that is what Ranke meant, something like:  "Do your records go back to eye-witnesses or better?"

Best,
J.W. Worthy
Sipe Springs, Texas

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