Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0
Logistics aside, I think it is a good idea to default 1 token (or a low number). Let the user understand what it means to go beyond 1 and tune things based on their needs.
On Friday, September 21, 2018, 5:06:14 PM PDT, Jonathan Haddad <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
One thing that's really, really bothered me for a while is how we default
to 256 tokens still. There's no experienced operator that leaves it as is
at this point, meaning the only people using 256 are the poor folks that
just got started using C*. I've worked with over a hundred clusters in the
last couple years, and I think I only worked with one that had lowered it
to something else.
I think it's time we changed the default to 4 (or 8, up for debate).
To improve the behavior, we need to change a couple other things. The
allocate_tokens_for_keyspace setting is... odd. It requires you have a
keyspace already created, which doesn't help on new clusters. What I'd
like to do is add a new setting, allocate_tokens_for_rf, and set it to 3 by
To handle clusters that are already using 256 tokens, we could prevent the
new node from joining unless a -D flag is set to explicitly allow
We've agreed to a trunk freeze, but I feel like this is important enough
(and pretty trivial) to do now. I'd also personally characterize this as a
bug fix since 256 is horribly broken when the cluster gets to any
reasonable size, but maybe I'm alone there.
I honestly can't think of a use case where random tokens is a good choice
anymore, so I'd be fine / ecstatic with removing it completely and
requiring either allocate_tokens_for_keyspace (for existing clusters)
to be set.