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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Replace with Gitter with Slack?


Taking Binding votes into account :

+1: 1 vote

   - Sid Anand

0: 2 votes

   - Bolke de Bruin
   - Kaxil Naik

-0.5: 1 vote

   - Arthur Wiedmer


Vote result is a net positive of +0.5.

I counted all of the PMC/committers' votes as binding.

-s

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 11:07 PM Arthur Wiedmer <arthur.wiedmer@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Sid,
>
> Erm, the next line is (emphasis mine) :
>
> PMC members have formally binding votes, but in general community members
> are encouraged to vote, even if their votes are *only advisory*.
>
> Again, that's not to say that the community at large cannot decide to host
> a Slack channel. I think you are more than welcome to if you want to.
>
> Best,
> Arthur
>
> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 10:59 PM Sid Anand <sanand@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Why doesn't every vote matter for this topic?
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#binding-votes
> >
> > Am I misinterpreting the "Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a
> > community-specific thing."?
> >
> > For the established Apache processes around promoting a contributor to
> > committer/PMC, deciding on the number of +1s to allow a merge to master,
> or
> > voting on releases, I understand the need to follow the
> binding/non-binding
> > protocol. In all of those cases, the outcomes affect maintainers.
> >
> > My understanding is that this topic affects the entire community, where
> > some members of the community are helping others. This seems to chug
> along
> > without maintainers being present. Hence, why do maintainers' votes
> matter
> > more here?
> >
> > Question for the mentors.. Jakob?
> >
> > -s
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 10:27 PM Bolke de Bruin <bdbruin@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Committers can only vote binding. Most of the time it is tagged by,
> > > indeed, adding "binding" to the vote.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On 9 Sep 2018, at 07:20, Scott Halgrim <scott.halgrim@xxxxxxxxxx
> > .INVALID>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What makes a vote binding? Just putting “(binding)” after your vote?
> > > >> On Sep 8, 2018, 10:19 PM -0700, Bolke de Bruin <bdbruin@xxxxxxxxx>,
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Sorry sid, only binding votes directly count to the vote. Please
> > update
> > > the
> > > >> result accordingly.
> > > >>
> > > >> Btw did you ask on gitter itself?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Op zo 9 sep. 2018 03:47 schreef Sid Anand <sanand@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> +1: 12 votes
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Sid Anand
> > > >>> - Steve Carpenter
> > > >>> - Beau Barker
> > > >>> - Marc Bollinger
> > > >>> - Pedro Machado
> > > >>> - Scott Halgrim
> > > >>> - Eamon Keane
> > > >>> - Adam Boscarino
> > > >>> - Daniel Cohen
> > > >>> - Chandu Kavar
> > > >>> - William Horton
> > > >>> - Ben Gregory
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 0: 2 votes
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Bolke de Bruin
> > > >>> - Kaxil Naik
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -0.5: 1 vote
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Arthur Wiedmer
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -1: 4 votes
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Shah Altaf
> > > >>> - James Meickle
> > > >>> - Ravi Kotecha
> > > >>> - airflowuser (??)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The vote concludes with 12 votes for and 4.5 votes against. The
> > > community
> > > >>> has opted to move to Slack from Gitter.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -s
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
>